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Have just replaced my Kimber Crystal Ag interconnects £322 each with Straight Thru interconnects bought through eBay £69.99+pp.
If i had bought these interconnects from the start I would have saved a small fortune.
They blow away the Kimbers, better bass, clearer vocals,excellent midrange and excellent soundstage
My hi fi consists of Meridian 508.24 CD player, Linn Kairn Pre amp,Linn Kaber Activ,3 Quad 306 power amps,Linn Kaber Speakers,Activ, Nottingham spacedeck with mentor arm, tracer 4 cartridge and Ear834P phono stage.
A friend came to listen and now has replaced his interconnects with Straight Throu
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I've been looking at these on ebay, but I'm spectical about all the marketing and supposed feedback.

Have you seen any group reviews
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I will wager £1000 to anyone who can hear the difference between a cheap nickle plated £2.50 interconnect, and any other exotic interconnect they chose.
Given that no nasties are appearing in their amp etc. i.e. RF interferance, then I do not belive there are any differences to be heared between most cables, the same goes for speaker cables, again beyond a minimum of say 0.5mm bell wire so let's say 2.5mm minimum.
Trust me if anyone can reliably and repeatably detect one or other of two cables of decent quality, and can prove beyond any doubt that one cable is actually better or different from another I will donate £1000 to their Hi Fi budget.

This is not idle talk but a very real subject, in some ways I would like to be proved wrong, as that would give me allot more faith in Hi Fi mags reporting, however I don't beleive it can be done.

So go ahead and prove me wrong, to-day I was prepared to spend £1000 on a CD player, but ended up buying a DVD/CD unit from Tesco for £23 odd, and that was a significant improvement on my Sony CD player i've had for many years.



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That is probably the 1000 doller question that will be contested by people that love music. You hit the nail on the head by saying the "new" dvd player was an improvement on the "old" sony cd player (that youve had for years)- Your words not ours.
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Sorry John, You must have hearing issues i'm afraid. While i'm sure that much of the hype surrounding very expensive interconnects is just that; hype, to say there is no difference between good quality interconnects and a pair worth £2.50 is crazy.
I would gladly do the "pepsi challenge" and tell you the difference between cables on my system without any problem. then i'd go off and spend your £1000 (not on interconnects!)
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The most difficult part of any such test is to compare only the cables. Without knowing say the output impedance of the driving device, or capacitance of the receiving device. If both values are low then I think the comparison stands true. Perhaps expand on your 'golden' ears and tell me the differences you hear and the equipment you use ??
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take a look at LAT International and AUDUSA - they rival all the kimber stuff and beat them hands down on cost as well as performance.
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I have done some tests, with a Marconi spectrum analyser a TF2370. Old unit but measures from 30Hz to 110MHz and has a tracking output.
If I place 1M of average 50 Ohm cable in the loop, and set it to read 1 dB of level for 1 gratical division, that makes 0.1 bB visible, I cannot see a response anomaly, so what else can a cable do.
Can it introduce harmonic distortion ?
Can it pick up interferance? possible maybe!
But as for audible differences, what can anyone hear ?
Please explain ?
The greatest change I have heard recently to my system was to change a massive Pioneer power amp to a small Tripath class 'T' amp and that was a difference, a stunning difference. Same speakers, CD and cables. But a change of technolegy, not a change of materials.
So please what am I misssing ?
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Of course John is quite correct. There is no (can be no) difference in the sound between different short pieces of screened wire. The capacitance, inductance and impedance values have no effect at audio frequencies. If you spend more than a fiver on an interconnect you have thrown it away for nothing. Expensive cables are a mugs eyeful made for pence in China and sold here for hundreds of pounds.

 Not sure about the CD player though. )

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O.K. mate, what is the possible problem with the C.D. player, latest unit is the Maranze up-sampleling DVD player, but on C.D. playback, totally competent, as good as any, and not much to chose between, they are all pretty good.

 John...

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Not sure that I agree with you guys, the difference is in what you can hear with your ears rather more than that which you can measure. This makes things 'subjective' and that is always where the fun starts! Maybe I have been unfortunate in the choice of my equipment in that it seems to respond to different inter-connects, speaker cables and mains power leads. However I am please to agree that not all equipment responds in the same way.
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hi anyone know how i can get hold of jeremy ridge (original poster)? i have a very simillar system to his and would like to ask him a few questions. cheers, mark
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"the difference is in what you can hear with your ears rather more than that which you can measure".

Nope, if it can't be measured  it's believing there is a difference when there isn't one.

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Hi Mark,

if you want to get in touch my email address is

j.ridge@sky.com

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Hi Adam,

with regards to the Straight thru inteconnects on ebay you can return them if you are not satisfied but pretty sure you won't.

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Both my son in law and I can hear obvious differences in different interconnects speaker cables and evenpower cables niether of us have exotic gear or have  extra acute hearing.It would seem that there are some flat-earthers out there who have listened to too many transistor radios in their formative years.
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here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL Ah ah its the same old song????????

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"Both my son in law and I can hear obvious differences in different interconnects speaker cables and evenpower cables niether of us have exotic gear or have  extra acute hearing.It would seem that there are some flat-earthers out there who have listened to too many transistor radios in their formative years."

 I expect you use homeopathic remedies too.

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Havnt tried homeopathic remedies yet. Still using cotton buds!
 

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