After steping back from screen a woman standing next to me said that took you by suprise by the look on your face, - her husband said move over its my turn now !!! ( dont know if it was the warmth of the plasma or just me) LOL?
Try using a digital interface processor between your digital source and a/d converter, i use a monarchy audio DIP, see THIS , it re-clocks all the data just before your A/D converter getting rid of most of the jitter , in some cases the copy can sound better than the original .
It's a shame about Isotek backing out, i have a lot of respect for their products , but i suppose the prospect of engaging in battle with John, Pluto & Fred was just too daunting for them .
Don't blame them for not sticking head in guillotine - shame though.
Back on Isotek disc - my doctor who is also in local band was asking me about info on new CD player as his was skipping tracks and quite old i told him about what the disc had done for me, i lent him the disc and he phoned me to return the disc he too was delighted on the discs performance it cured the skipping problem saving his player from being bin ed his player is still working great that was three weeks ago - seems to me that static build up on optic transport could be cause for concern over time ??? Cheers ...Carl.
Yes I did, it just sprung in to my head when i was filling in the form, probably because i find Electrocompaniet to be the most musical equipment on the planet , alot of musicians and recording engineers agree with me, music reproduced on it just makes more sense , I LOVE IT !
Saying that, I have been seriously seduced by another brand that i think could be the best amplifier in the world see THIS I first heard them at a hifi show a couple of years ago , the only problem is I could never afford them !
Yup ! I know these guys !! Expensive with the capital "E"! It's a very "industrial" philosophy that Dartzeel adopt, by using a "Bin" style boards container with slide-in guides etc. In fact extremely methodical up until they put the labels on the front panel - proving that they clearly have a sense of humour . Seriously though, the front panel belies the engineering which hides behind it. This is a dream SS amp for many people.
Back in 1982 I reached a crossroads where although I had really set my heart on the Electrocompaniet, I was forced to decide to between the Electrocompaniet Class A and a similarly specced Naim Amp. I regret to say I was persuaded to go with the Naim
It wasn't all bad though. The Naim was a competent class B and kept a low temperature when driving the occasional dips down to 2.5 ohms (The Electrocompaniet probably would have been a bad decision given the unusual speaker load) Ironically my current Class A (a Simaudio Moon i-7 Dual-Mono) is driving an occasional < 1ohm load but remains almost as cool as a cucumber.
Am I right in assuming Electrocompaniet were the first to bring SS Class A to the masses here in the UK?
I had a similar experience to you in the 80's, between , meridian, naim , and electrocompaniet, the original 25 watter , i chose the latter but unfortunately supply was simply outstripped by demand so i was about to settle on my second choice , the 101/ 105 meridians when by pure chance a delivery arrived at the hifi shop ( Rayleigh HiFi ) it was pair of Mission 776 / 777 pre- power amps, one of the best looking amps ever made, the salesman persuaded me to listen to them whilst i was there even though they were out of my price range ( £900 ) , within 5 minutes , i new i wanted them with all my heart. the 776 is a battery powered pre amp with onboard charger, the 777 is a 100 watt high speed amp with a hexfet output stage and enormous current and transient power delivery.
I left the shop with the demo pair wondering how i was going to make the re-payments!
It was not until 2000 that I re-discovered electrocompaniet , and shortly after bought my ec 4.7 pre and aw120 dmb power amps. Funny you should mention sugden, i did a direct comparison between the masterclass pre-power combo at twice the price , the electro's won by a mile in every way.
When I first encountered the Dartzeel amps I had never heard of the company it's products or the prices , I just walked into the room with the music playing and was slapped round the face with music , within seconds I new they were something very special , similar to my electro's but much more , it's very rare to hear a product that is so far superior to anything else previously heard, then i found out the price and knew it was never going to be, ahh well !
The whole range of electro amp's are now stable into loads down to 0.5 ohms , and current delivery between 100 to 150 amps, so if you get a chance have a listen . I have only heard simaudio products briefly but they left a good impression , and get good reviews.
It's a shame about Isotek backing out, i have a lot of respect for their products , but i suppose the prospect of engaging in battle with John, Pluto & Fred was just too daunting for them .
I have no desire to engage them in battle, or anything like it. Merely for them to offer even a hint of tangible proof that their products actually can make a difference. For instance: it is very easy indeed to prove whether or not a mains filter product does anything. All it requires is a pair of hefty mains switching relays which switch in to bypass the device under test.
Now while there is arguably a criticism of this approach when it comes to cable swapping tests, on the basis that the relays themselves might have an influence and therefore swamp the differences between the cables under test, no such argument holds water if you are testing the efficacy of a mains filter.
If you have a mains-inserted device that really does make a difference, it's very easy to prove it. If such a test was capable of showing their mains filtration products in a good light, don't you think they would make a few dozen such "demonstration rigs" and ensure that their dealers were equipped with them? Sales would become easy and plentiful.
Don't get me wrong here. In some circumstances mains filtration is undeniably necessary. Perhaps I am blessed in so far as I have always lived in highly residential areas when the quality of the mains supply has not been too bad. But in the event of extra filtration being required, it is possible to buy a suitable unit for less than a tenner that will ensure that nothing above a few hundred Hz emerges from the mains outlet.
"The whole range of electro amp's are now stable into loads down to 0.5 ohms , and current delivery between 100 to 150 amps, so if you get a chance have a listen."
...I think you've just convinced me !!! This sounds like my kind of amplifier !!
You hold strong views on the subject and I respect that, but between black and white there are an infinite number of shades of grey. There is room for everyone's opinions here?
Many people probably don't feel the need for the switchbox for a changeover that takes as long as required to power the gear down safely...and lets face it, if they facilitated such straightforward demo-ing, you could apply the test gear to the competitors products too -- free support !! )
As you say, Mains accessories don't always cost the earth. (My tests on VDRs in the 80s were very entertaining. They caused a lot of controversy as many argued they were having a negative effect on a Hifi system's musicality and promptly dropped them!)
Many people probably don't feel the need for the switchbox for a changeover that takes as long as required to power the gear down safely
Bill - a test of this nature would not require a power-down, as the relays could change over in about 50mS, which most decent kit wouldn't even notice. That way, a genuine switched comparison could be made. Why on earth anybody would consider such a test worthless? Perhaps that is why I sometimes apprear intolerant. I want to be proved wrong in my views, but that proof has to be rigourous. When my "opponents" deny even the need for rigourous testing, that is when I start to get twitchy.
P,This man is a kidologist of the highest order. Eloquently put, but kidology nevertheless. One cannot on the one hand maintain that the sonic effect of an amplifier change is self-evident then attest that everything else our ears perceive is either emotionally induced imaginativeness or plain bo**ocks. Real life doesn't quite work that way (the infinite greyscale I mentioned) and this man's "I'm-Mad-As-Hell-and-I'm-Not-Going-to-Take-It-Anymore" approach makes great reading but interpretation must be tempered by your own judgement and experience.True the human mind is a powerful thing. You only have to believe that you are cured for a placebo to work - but this only assumes that illness was psychosomatic in the first place! Equally a Hypnotist could inform the volunteer that he was suffering from the effect of a "positive hallucination" i.e. instruct him to see and hear things which are not there, and it would be so. More significantly, a listener can also be the subject of a "negative hallucination"...encouraged to ignore things which are there...Perhaps we need a professional Hypnotist to do a job for us on our Hifi systems !Kind regards, Bill.
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