Rik, as a psychologist, you really do have some problems in life, like serious ones, may I suggest professional help here or simply a few Valium pills or maybe a little wacky backy, but whatever else you certainly need something. Trust me drugs are amazing they can not only alter your perception but also can alter your temperament and your hearing, possibly even your visual experiances. The first time I heard 'Pink Floyd' under the influence I could not believe the fidelity.
I hope this helps... John...
I remember once coming home from a drug inspired party and seeing the street lights as massive 'snowdrops' well that did freak me at the time, but on reflection I can see how easy it is to mistake reality.
Well I wouldnt stoop so low as to question your sexuality John but id hazard a guess you wouldnt be too chuffed if I did. Thats the ONLY reason I replied with what I did.
Right I don't believe I have either, the point of my message was simply to say how easily reality can be altered, if you've done drugs then you know just how susceptible our minds are to perception of reality, just imagine the drug induced affect of a £400 power cable and what that could do to the brain. Now £400 of 'whacky' could transform you to another planet or at least to a different stratosphere.
A very sensible and sane reply, but you may just miss out on something special if you don't try things for yourself , it does no harm and is not dangerous ( in the case of mains leads ) so go on give one a try, borrow one on a 30 day trial from our trusted friend Russ , and then you can truly speak from a position of authority, you never know you may be converted !
you may just miss out on something special if you don't try things for yourself
I do try things for myself. Admittedly I haven't tried demagnetizing my non magnetic CDs or painting them with a green pen, replacing my mains leads or chanting magic invcantations over my speakers because I recognise nonsense when I see it.
borrow one on a 30 day trial from our trusted friend Russ , and then you can truly speak from a position of authority, you never know you may be converted !
Perhaps I should start praying too, after all there might just be an invisible man, living in the sky, with a list of 10 things he doesn't want me to do and I could burn in an imaginary place called hell.
I'm not guessing or speculating when I say that mains leads don't affect the sound of an amplifier, I know they don't.
If you are claiming they do you will need to explain how.
It's always good to share a fantasy with someone you're attracted to.
What is it that makes you so ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that your RIGHT and we're WRONG when.......its YOU that HASNT ACTUALLY TRIED THEM??
Go get your measuring kit Fred. At least YOU'LL be happy
I haven't tried them because I know it's very silly and a waste of money. There are lots of things I haven't tried for the same reason.
I have NEVER, EVER, said to buy any have I? I have always stated to TRY them. As electro has clearly pointed out, certain cable manufacturers WILL allow you to borrow the items first (In fact your main dealer should too if theyre worth their salt).
Now its obviously so very clear that people like you and John are so stuck in your ways that you absolutely refuse to believe in ANY minute way that a mains lead could make ANY difference and so its really pointless us going any further on is it? Your never going to be able to prove to me otherwise and can only throw what you know (Upto now) at me, whilst I fire actual examples as to whats happened 'to me' right back at you. Call me a sceptic but I think my argument has more weight than someone who simply says ~"I haven't tried them because I know it's very silly and a waste of money". THATS your argument!! It must be because simply throwing what youve learnt as an electrical engineer at me really doesnt prove ANYTHING about wether or not one MIGHT make an amplifier perform differently. Your agrument stands absolutely no ground whatsoever to my eyes im afraid.
Now im pulling out of this conversation with both you AND John simply because its a complete waste of time and all the 2 of you are doing is basically calling me a liar OR that I imagine things and especially when you resort to calling my sexuality into question (Funny how both you AND John resort to sidestepping the whole 'hifi' side of things and start calling my sexuality or indeed 'sanity' (!!) into question). Whilst on the other end ive NEVER said that ANY of what you have said is untrue (Apart from the whole point of the conversation which is 'do mains cables make a difference?' and you havnt even TRIED them!!)
electro has clearly pointed out, certain cable manufacturers WILL allow you to borrow the items first (In fact your main dealer should too if theyre worth their salt).
I don't need to borrow mains leads to know they don't change anything. If i was technically illiterate, I probably would try them and , no doubt, if the placebo effect works, I might keep them.
Now its obviously so very clear that people like you and John are so stuck in your ways that you absolutely refuse to believe in ANY minute way that a mains lead could make ANY difference
Knowing something about what you're talking about isn't being stuck in your ways.
Call me a sceptic but I think my argument has more weight than someone who simply says ~"I haven't tried them because I know it's very silly and a waste of money". THATS your argument!!
It isn't possible that a mains lead can change the quality of the sound from an amplifier any more than replacing a kettle lead can raise the boiling point of water. If you have an explanation of how your overpriced foo leads can perform this miraculous feat I would be delighted to hear it. You should bear in mind that so far nobody has been able to tell the difference when tested, even with a 1,000,000 dollar prize up for grabs.
Now im pulling out of this conversation with both you AND John simply because its a complete waste of time and all the 2 of you are doing is basically calling me a liar OR that I imagine things and especially when you resort to calling my sexuality into question (Funny how both you AND John resort to sidestepping the whole 'hifi' side of things and start calling my sexuality or indeed 'sanity' (!!) into question). Whilst on the other end ive NEVER said that ANY of what you have said is untrue (Apart from the whole point of the conversation which is 'do mains cables make a difference?' and you havnt even TRIED them!!)
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, there’s always going to be people who indisputably believe in one things, while others are more open minded.
Back to your question, I bought their “EPIC” 1 meter cable to try, it was only £70 I think, which seamed good value for money to me in the world of audio and cabling, have a look at their website, I cant remember the exact address but Google “Elucidate Cables”, it should pull it up.
Regardless of what other people might think (and yes I am welcome to my opinion as are you) I’m certainly sure I could tell the difference, and my aim here was to get the best possible out of my system (hence why I purchased the Nordost cable in the first place), as I’ve spent a lot of money on my system to date.
I now run the 1 meter cable on my plasma, as it wasn’t really long enough for the amp, and I run several 2 meter EPIC cables to the power amp, cd player etc.
Hope this feedback helps, and don’t let them get you down
"Bye bye then ducky" if in your warped mind you actually think youve WON!..............
HAHAHA
mate ~ youve come up with absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to back up your claims. You havnt even tried it....at all.....in ANY way shape or form WHATSOEVER.
Till you have ~ you just keep on measurin pal
Kinda reminds me of the story of when everyone laughed when some guy thought the world was round
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, there’s always going to be people who indisputably believe in one things, while others are more open minded.
Back to your question, I bought their “EPIC” 1 meter cable to try, it was only £70 I think, which seamed good value for money to me in the world of audio and cabling, have a look at their website, I cant remember the exact address but Google “Elucidate Cables”, it should pull it up.
Regardless of what other people might think (and yes I am welcome to my opinion as are you) I’m certainly sure I could tell the difference, and my aim here was to get the best possible out of my system (hence why I purchased the Nordost cable in the first place), as I’ve spent a lot of money on my system to date.
I now run the 1 meter cable on my plasma, as it wasn’t really long enough for the amp, and I run several 2 meter EPIC cables to the power amp, cd player etc.
Hope this feedback helps, and don’t let them get you down
he Design Philosophy Question: How can 1 metre of specialist OFC high grade copper mains cable possibly make a difference after the effect of the several miles of high voltage low grade national grid mains cable and the several hundred metres of low grade mains cable from the substation to your house, let alone the standard 2.5mm2 copper ring main in your walls?
Answer: Well it can't! We believe High grade OFC cables make little to no difference at all (apart from excessive Cost and Price). Additionally, we have tested silver plated mains plugs and have found them to offer little to the quality of the cable except again a huge price increase.
Our research has shown three major areas that do make a difference to cable quality:
The rejection and reduction of internal radio frequency interference (RFI) and noise already present on the mains line.
Immunity to and rejection of additional external RFI, EMI and noise.
Low impedance and high current capacity, so as not to current limit any equipment. (Particularly important in High End Audio equipment, power amplifiers and high power LCD and Plasma TVs).
All our cables are designed to achieve the above criteria. We do not use overly expensive OFC cables or silver plated mains plugs. We have focused the design and cost into where it matters: Noise reduction, Noise rejection and current handling. These cables will outperform cables at 4 and 5 times their price."
Fair play, they knock my 'silver plated' theory but I have always said I DO believe in cables to reduce 'mains noise'
And then to FURTHER back me up (With cables they DONT EVEN SELL!)
"PLEASE NOTE: This design philosophy is only valid for mains cables and does not hold true for signal cables. Signal cables such as HDMI, Audio interconnects and Speaker cables can benefit greatly from high quality precious metal plated connectors, high conductivity OFC or Silver conductors as well as novel low loss construction techniques"
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, there’s always going to be people who indisputably believe in one things, while others are more open minded.
Back to your question, I bought their “EPIC” 1 meter cable to try, it was only £70 I think, which seamed good value for money to me in the world of audio and cabling, have a look at their website, I cant remember the exact address but Google “Elucidate Cables”, it should pull it up.
Regardless of what other people might think (and yes I am welcome to my opinion as are you) I’m certainly sure I could tell the difference, and my aim here was to get the best possible out of my system (hence why I purchased the Nordost cable in the first place), as I’ve spent a lot of money on my system to date.
I now run the 1 meter cable on my plasma, as it wasn’t really long enough for the amp, and I run several 2 meter EPIC cables to the power amp, cd player etc.
Hope this feedback helps, and don’t let them get you down
James
Congratulations for buying into the lie, experiencing the desired placebo effect and worshipping at the altar of the imaginary cable gods.
Don't forget that science always wins out in the end in any contest with pseudoscience, even if pseudoscience has more fools gold to play with.
