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Hi, newbie to the forum so please be gentle..... Have just decided to upgrade my hi fi (of almost 30 years vintage!!) and though I don't play vinyl that much, was wondering what I would be looking at should I wish to get a better result from my current player - being a Technics SL150, SME 3009/S2, and Nagaoka MP11 Boron cartridge. Any suggestions would be welcome - many thanks
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Hmm, not an easy one.

The Technics is a direct drive turntable and these have fallen from grace in recent years, as has the SME 3009 with its nylon knife-edge bearings (you can supposedly improve the arm by moving from original bearings and mounting plate to bronze ones supplied by Analog Tube Audio of Germany). Part of the reason for this fall from grace is down to rumble, but this is mostly historic. Modern plinth technology has largely levelled the playing field.

Arguably, if you like the sound of the deck, keep the deck and improve on what you have. You could try listening to a Rega turntable (probably a P3 or P5, with the supplied arm and one of the Rega MM cartridges). If you find it natural and inviting, you are breaking free from the spell of Direct Drive decks; if you find it imprecise, no belt-drive turntable this side of a Notts Analogue Spacedeck or a Kuzma Reference will come close... and you are talking thousands now.

The cheapest way of getting a better result is as follows: buy a marble chopping block from Asda (no, really), then build a five sided box slightly wider and deeper than the chopping block and about 20cm deep. Seal this box carefully, carefully level it and fill it with silver sand. Place the marble chopping block on top (on the sand itself). Now rest the turntable on top of this mass-damped plinth, possibly using Sorbothane feet between deck and chopping block.

You should also consider trading up from the Nagaoka to a Denon DL103 or DL304 moving coil cartridge. You may need a step-up transformer too.

Any other crazy support plans using home made technology will be greatly appreciated. No Kleenex and spit, please.
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Many thanks for the information, it's given me a great starting point to do a few auditions. Your suggestion of the Rega P3 or 5 is a useful reference, though with your 'mass-damped plinth'suggestion isolating the TT from all external vibration sources seems to be crucial...
With that in mind (can't see the wife agreeing to a box of sand in the living room) do the R3 and 5 have suitable isolation feet or do they need to be purchased extra (couldn't tell from their website). Also what are your thoughts re the Pro-ject range as they seem to be getting good reviews lately..

Thanks again for your input and help.
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The Pro-ject range is good too. It's well worth looking out for, although it's worth buying the next model up compared to the Rega, because they come bundled with more expensive cartridges.

The Rega has limited isolation, with rubberised feet and that's about it. But, unless where it rests is shaky, it should be fine.

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