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      I have recently installed a Denon AVR-4308 into the centre of my Home Cinema. I sold my Bryston 6B-SST on eBay to finance it, in spite of warnings that the Denon would not be in the same league, and in soite of my retailer who strongly recommended the Onkyo brand.

      My old system used the SST to power the front and centre channels, with an Arcam P85 looking after the rear surround channels. My DVD player was a Tag Maclaren DVD32FLR with the retro fitted 192 digital board,decoded by a Tag Maclaren AV32. That old front end is now replaced by a Yamaha S-2700 universal player, with the human interface set up by a Samsung PS50P96 plasma screen, and an Optoma H72i projector showing on a ceiling mounted 8 foot wide screen.

      This major change has taken two or three weeks to get to grips with, and settle down for major viewing. The main attraction of the Denon Amplifier was the HDMI set-up, with 4 inputs and two outputs. The two outputs are both powered simultaneously, and drive the plasma screen and the projector. Due to native resolutions limited to 720p for both viewing systems, it isn't possible to go mad with the HD settings, so the Yamaha player is setup to output its video at 480/576 from NTSC or PAL discs, leaving the Denon to upscale to 720p for viewing. I must say, that while I thought the Tag player would be hard to beat, I am most impressed with the Yamaha player; the colours are most noticeably improved to the extent that friends remark on them. And I have even bought some SACD demonstration discs to sample high definition sound-in itself a revelation!

      It must be said that I do not miss the solid clout of the Bryston, as the Denon can be configured to assign two amplifiers from the Zone 2 stereo capability which I don't need anyway, to bi-amp ny front left and right speakers (KEF 104-2 reference). In spite of the very capable bottom end of these speakers, I have configured the sub-woofer (B & W PV1) to take over below 80Hz for the whole system, and it all seems to integrate very smoothly with no noticeable quirks. I have left the centre speaker (KEF C200) in the care of a single Denon amplifier channel, and it handles dialogue clearly unless the American actors mumble as they seem prone to. I drive the rear channels from a pre-amp output facility in the Denon via my old faithful Arcam P85 power amp to the rear suround speakers (Monitor Audio Silver Fxi wired bipolar) which although only a 5.1 set-up, provide a realistic sound.

      This new system provides us with a very creditable Cinema experience, which entertains enormously, with DVD's ranging from Classic Opera, through Rock concerts from the likes of Pink Floyd, to the latest blockbusters. And it's OK on music too, from vinyl though a Rotel mc pre-amp from the Rega P25/Blue Point Special, and my iPod containing all my 350+ CD's.

      It also shines on BluRay, from my old Samsung BD-P1000, even at 720p. Maybe I will up date that one day, if the decline in prices continues.

      My advice? If you've got a big expensive Bryston or Krell system, don't hesitate to audition the Denon AVR-4308. You'll be glad you did!

      And our favorite DVD? Roy Orbison 'Black and White Night'. It gets them boogeying all round the room.

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Hi John

I wonder if you can help, from your detailed analysis of your new equipment above it would be nice to receive an impartial view of the kit I am about to purchase. I might need to sell my Tag kit to help finance my new project.

I know the Tag kit is good but in all fairness to my family I can not keep one very large room purely for my pleasure, it needs to be kitted out as a multi function room.

My current kit which is up on ebay is

Tag CD20r CD player (sold) Tag T20 Tuner, Tag Pre Amp PA20sl, and Tag Power Amp 60Psl biwired to Castle Harlech speakers.

I have already purchased a 5.1 speaker set from AVIN which is the Aivn V-88 system with the two rear speakers operated wireless. Have you any good or bad reports on this system? I am about to purchase the same Denon AVR 4308 as you (enough said)

The only other item I would need is a dvd/blue ray player, I have been looking at the Shuttle media centre which is an hard disc storage, blue ray all in one box system.

Would I be better off keeping any of my Tag kit to improve the system or will the Denon perform well enough for me to listen without to much of a drop in music quality. I suppose there is always a trade off? 

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Hi Martin,

I tried to sell my Tag kit on eBay (I tried the AV32 processor and the DVD32FLR as a pair) but there were no takers interested, so I've still got them!

I was very surprised to find the Denon sounds every bit as good as the Bryston 6B-SST, so I doubt if you'll find it wanting. I have mine set up for Zone 1 ONLY-I use no other zones. So, I've assigned 2 amps to bi-amp my front L and R speakers (KEF 104/2). I had a spare Rotel RB107 power amp, so I've used that in bridged mode to power my Centre speaker (KEF 200C) feeding the Rotel from the Denon pre-amp stage. Finally, I use my previous system's rear amp (Arcam p85) to drive the rear speakers Monitor Audio SFx in the Silver series. This all works just fine, and seems to integrate very well, and it still leaves me with a spare stereo amp so I can play with 7.1 channels. So far i've tried 7.1, but I'm not very impressed, so I've settled for 5.1(I use a B&W PV01 subwoofer, which is quite magic)

So I've still got the Tag gear to sell on eBay, but I'm not going to give it away! I bought a Yamaha S2700 DVD/SACD/CD/Divx player which I rate better than the TAG DVD32FLR!

I also have a Samsung BD1000 BlueRay player with the latest firmware.

The Denon copes with everything! (And I've got a Netgear D-Link DSM330 Media Box linked to my D-Link Router with CAT5 cable to feed all the video, Music and Picture files from my PC to the Denon. So my CD collection which is all on my iPod, comes out through the whole system!

I'm tickled pink with the whole thing. If yiou live reasonably close to Northants, you're invited (both)

Sincere regards, John Bridger

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Hi John

Many thanks for that, I can purchase the denon knowing its had a favourable review from someone who has nothing to gain.

 Regards

 Martin Jenkins


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