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Duncan Madden wrote
....made using special manufacturing techniques to ensure the wire doesn't age too quickly.

What happens if a cable "ages too quickly"?

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Yer right, perhaps you or the company can explain what 'ageing' actually is, does copper change it's molecular structure to either age or burn in, tell me what happens when a cable 'ages' does it then not conduct electricity, does it change it's properties.

Perhaps someone could explain how long copper takes to 'not be copper' and how does that change take place. I believe some tests were done on transatlantic cables that had been on the sea bed for one hundred years and they showed no signs of change.

Well if a standard cable shows no sign of change after a hundred years then what is being offered here?

And please can anyone explain what happens during 'burn in', what changes take place in the material, does passing micro-amps of alternating current down a metre of copper cable really change it's resistance or insulation, capacitance or molecular structure. I don't think so, no we are now in the land of voodoo, the nebulous world of the mind, the uncertainties of belief etc. but we are miles away from science.

John... 

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David,

That is absolutely Brilliant ?  No offence to all, ha-ha,

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Quite amusing, David Hamilton, but you cannot deny the issue merely by asserting that I am like a grumpy old man.

As they say when you take exams – answer the question! I'm afraid that sarcastic responses suggest that you would rather bury your head in the sand than face the truth. How about attacking the issues, not the individual who asks the question.

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Pluto,

It's quite simple my friend....if it ages too quickly you buy another one (only younger this time! )

You see....it's a marketing ploy.... ;D

Cheers...Bill.

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David (H)....that was inspired.....

Cheers,

Bill.

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Bill Colborne wrote (see)
You see....it's a marketing ploy...

OK...so they tell us that cables require burn-in – accelerated aging, no? And now they tell us that the new model is designed not to "age too quickly".

I smell BS. When manufacturers start coming up with stuff like this, it really does push the limits of credibility.

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Sometimes it can stem from being lost in translation....one theory I've heard concerns the time-related dissipation of gases trapped in the insulation...which they may quantify as "aging" the cable (although quite what the relevance of this is, is anybody's guess )

Are they suggesting this alters the dielectric properties of the insulation over time ????

Kind regard, Bill.

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Bill Colborne wrote (see)
Are they suggesting this alters the dielectric properties of the insulation over time ????

I wonder what a change in dielectric properties would mean in practice. The cable capacitance will change by a very small amount, but one would hope that a decent interconnect has an insignificantly small capacitance in any case. I rather doubt that the capacitance of any cable made from stable materials would alter by more than a % or two over the course of a few years.

Whatever the case, it gives every appearance of clutching at straws.

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I've just read the Review for the first time and I confess I've never heard anyone describe a cable as "getting old" (aging). True if Users persistently pull a coax out by the cord rather than the connector the cable will become tired and frayed - and eventually fail, but this sales tactic beats me....

Are they describing the unique geometry of this cable's tendency to fail under duress? If so I'd be more worried than excited...

The colour is orange though...and that is a highly marketable colour.

Kind regards, Bill.


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