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Carl, The official report is/was the de facto published outcome of the events of 911 and as it says the buildings collapsed due to melting metal then there you go. Plus, all the evidence (ie. the wreckage or what was left of the buildings ) was hastily carted away from the site thus not allowing any  independant anlaysis of it.  I'm not ware any insurance companies have refused to pay out. I expect the insurance included terrorism clauses or at least areoplane impacts etc. and isnt it rather handy that the demolition of the towers was also achieved at the same time rather than leavng partially burnt out, but standing buildings?

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I believe Mr Silverstien took out specific terrorist insurance only weeks before the event, to the tune of 3 Billion Dollar payback, is it any wonder that he said 'pull it'. Here is a part of the story that I do not understand, even the best firefighters in the world do not have the means or time to 'pull' a building. So to even have the option must mean that the building was pre set with explosives etc.

Did a few terrorists set charges in another building, in advance, and raising no suspicion, just to give Mr Silverstien that option?

The option to destroy the one building that contained all the intelligence, all the files, all the lead up.

Now as I understand it WTC7 contained all the planning of the attack, it was the security place for the whole 'world trade centre' complex, take that out and one removes most of the evidence.

Is that what all the best crooks do, remove all traces of evidence, however a major part of forensic science is to look for reason, payback, reward etc.

Now those buildings were making a loss, they were full of asbestos, they would have cost billions to dismantle within the law, so what better than create a cataclysmic statement, it was a terrorist attack, get the job done and create a reason to start a war, and reward Mr Silverstien with several billion.

But on top of all that, remove the problem for a fraction of the cost, create a new regime for identity cards etc. Have a good reason to tighten up on internal security and seriously reduce the individuals freedom, just what any government could wish for, great result, apart from the 2800 who lost their lives. But so be it they got the job done, now lets just get on with building 'the new world order'.

John... 

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I hope they use good quality oxygen free silver and gold plated cables and make sure the connectors are also gold plated in the new building so they can have a good PA system and also the data is much cleaner, they could even use oak cones and special honey combed wood for the computer tables. Gerald in a sane moment.

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John, absolutley.

Gerald, "your forget and move on" attitude is exactly what the powers that be wanted/expected from the masses - 911 is no joking matter now is it.

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Hello All,911 is seared into my brain with all the friends i lost,and i dont think[IMO] it should be debated here..............Dave
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You may be right, but debating someting on a different site can only bring new people into the debate, whilst I can understand the pain of your memories, finding the truth can only enable understanding.

Tonight in the 'medical supply shop' read 'offy'. I said I guess you are muslim, he said 'yes' I then asked the unmentionable 'what do believe was the cause of the 911 collapse. He became a liittle defensive and replied 'so what do you belive'. I said a totally govenment organised event. He relaxed and said 'yes we all knew that. My reply was well why do so many believe the official story. Therein started an in depth chat about war and the state of the planet, probably bought me closer to a Muslin shopkeeper than ever before.

So bottom line here, more than half the world do not believe the 'official' story, less than half Americans believe the official story, so does the 'official' story have any credance at all?

I started this thread with only one aim, and that was to find the HOW, not the why, or the who, but simply the HOW.

Now when someone is asked to do something that they do not really want to do, they leave little clues, many clues have been left, it is up to the world to pick up on these and put then together.

One never mentioned clue is the timing, after all 911 is the phone number for emergencies in America. was that just coincidence or a joke. 

Maybe three buildings completely demolished in one day is another, maybe the ensuing war is another.

I am wide open to ideas but I fail to see how a few outsiders could ever pull off an event like this.The physics are just not possible the logistics are highly unlikely and the probability is practically zero.

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Hello all, I have been asked by my psychiatrist to try out some new medicine to see if it will help with a permanent cure for my psychical problems.

The last time they changed my medication for the problems I am having with my type two diabetes, breathing and high blood pressure it caused a chemical imbalance and affected my mental state, as you will have noticed.

I was then sectioned because of my behaviour.
 He said that the new medicines may cause me to have mental problems again so be ready for some crazy posts from me on here

It seems I should do all the normal things I usually do, so you may see read some crazy things I write.

I have been told that I will be un sectioned if that is the word, when they cure my psychical problems and they can see that the medication I am on will not cause me any mental problems in the future.

 I am going to start on my new medicines on Thursday If they do cause problems I will be taken off them again and back to normal.

Then more changes until they get it sorted out.

Regards from a sane Gerald PS I have been reading some of the things I said and it was most amusing, I did not know how crazy I sounded but I did have a laugh,

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Now Gerald, much as I understand your mental problems I fail to understand the physical ones as well, maybe you should visit the local charity shop and get a dictionary, then visit the Samaritans and get a life. then maybe the off licence and get a drink, by then you will be so knackered that you go to sleep, and stop writing such garbage on this site.

As always, thinking of you... John... 

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Hi John,

I was working in a high-rise government office when 9/11 happened.  There was no panic but the sense of vulnerability was palpable. 

So I am interested in following if not contributing directly to this debate. 

This website reckons that they can debunk some of the claims. thought you might be interested.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=2

all the best with what I presume is an unfathomable problem...

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Thanks Tamara - I wonder did you see or hear anything that day?

I didn't start this thread lightly, I know it a difficult subject but I spent many months researching the web, asking questions etc. before I came to a conclusion. The only conclusion was the unthinkable and it shook my very reality.

Checked out the link, then realised I had read it two years ago, and probably another hundred in a similar vein. The more you read, the more you learn and it all eventually converges into a believable story. 

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Hi John

No.  But I am interested in what did happen.....I fail to understand how the planes could get to that point .......yet alone how easily they could take control of.   These two questions were always on our minds after that.  I was glad to leave because the inference was that any  attack was possible anywhere.  Vigilant wasn't a strong enough the word to use for us all.

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Take a look at the film on DVD 'Loose Change' a hard hitting documentary of the days events.

John... 

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Hi John

Thanks I'll track it down.

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I have many documents regarding the event, text files, images, and videos but how can I get them to you?

If you were to join Skype then I could simply send them as files in real time.

My skype address is 'fisher198' get connected and I will convince you of the real events, not an 'unfathomable problem' just an unbelievable one.

Let the truth be seen... John... 

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Hi John

Thanks for the offer, unfiortunately , I am not on skype but you're not the first to mention it.....If there are any  references;  online or book etc you can message me  here. I actually find the unbelievable quite plausible..what's the saying "truth is stranger than fiction"..and I've heard plenty of that!

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