anyone out there who can answer my questions.....ireally fancy a itube fatman ,whats the diffrence between the carbon and the 252? also i like big speakers.i fancy  the mission m64i speakers.or the m33i home cinema speakers with the possability to add a subwoofer..would the fatman run this setup.im not really clued up on hifi, but wanna buy a nice outfit..please help,rich

carbon has the dock and amp in one unit, the 252 has the units separate, no other differences. Try Monitor Audio Bronze speakers, they sound really good with the FatMan.

There is a world of difference.  The 252 is a serious audiophile valve amplifier selling for around £650 whereas the itube Carbon sells for about £299 and has far less power and current delivery.

I'll second that about the Audio bronze speakers - they're awesome for the price, especially if you put them on some good stands and biwire them...

I have a Itube 252 with a rega saturn CD deck and im running a pair of B&W 684's the whole pacage is somewhat breath taking the clarety of sound and the real sence that the music is live is amaizing and im hearing things on my cd's that i have never heard before dont get me wrong there is plenty out there that would beat the pants off it but im not prepared to pay the kind of money to achieve it at the best part of three grand i think enough is enough. \the B&W 684's are around the £800 mark and are floor standing so if your lookng for something a little cheaper or smller then i would also highly recomend the 685's they are a stand or bookshelf speaker but suprisingly deep so i would stand mounth them to be honest they also have the same tone as the larger 684's but at a snippet of the cost. Prices are around the £379 mark i believe, much more afordable i'm sure you would agree.