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H2H: Sony BDP-S1E vs Sony PS3 Blu-ray players
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But you forget to mention that the PS3 lacks the ability to output proper Bitstream audio, and so compatible amps won't decode the latest Dolby HD formats (or DTS formats.)

I have a PS3 and whilst the audio quality is stunning via my Yamaha RX-V3800 amp, I cannot realise the full potential of the Blu Ray Audio.
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I thought that the SACD compatibility had been dropped from the latest 40gb HDD versions?
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Hi there

 In response to the post about the PS3 not outputting HD audio formats, it is true to say that it can't currently output the Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA formats in their raw digital forms. HOWEVER, it can output via its HDMI Dolby TrueHD that has been decoded into high-bitrate PCM 5.1. Obviously to enjoy the enhanced PCM audio your AV receiver needs to be capable of receiving PCM 5.1 via an HDMI input.

 Apologies for not making this clearer in the original article.

 In response to the post about SACD compatibility, while my 60GB version certainly supports full multi-channel SACD playback, it is true that the 40GB had the feature taken out. Again I should have clarified this in the article, but with SACD being an extremely niche format, I don't think it affects the overall point I'm trying to make - especially as you can get 60GB consoles for around £450 on Ebay, which still looks like a fine deal compared with the SE1.

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I'm confused - HOW does the PS3 output SACD?

It may be "niche"; but I have loads as they are brilliant!

BUT, I can't see how the decode is doen and output ....................

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Via HDMI I think. I thought a Digital Optical would suffice but I found that, even though one can see both the Multichannel and CD areas on the SACD (and they both play), using the Digital Optical connection to my Pioneer AX5i Receiver didn't light up all my 5.1 channels. At best it was CD Stereo enhanced by using the rear channel as per Prologic II Music or Neo 6. Not discrete 5.1.

To get 5.1 I need the next model up which has HDM input. Darn!
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Interesting article Sony BDP-S1E vs PS3 and discussion on PS3.

This is more of a general question. As it is likely that Blue Ray discs will be Region Coded, and as I have conventional DVDs from more than one region, is the PS3 a multi-region unit, or can it be made so?

Also, does anyone know if there are any Blue Ray players that are multi-region?
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It would appear so.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/03/24/sony_ps3_region-free/

However, I can't say for certain as I have no DVD discs that are other than Region 2 to try out on my PS 3.

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i am confused to say the least. i have just bought the 40gb version as a compromise. i wanted a blu ray player and my partner wanted a game console. i have bought several disks including die hard 4.0 and shoot em up. my ps3 is conected into the hd tv via a hdmi cable and into my 5.1 kit via an optical. i can play dvds in dolby 5.1 but get no sound at all with 5.1dts hd.

The ps3 is set up correctly.

Is there any way i can watch these discs with this sound or am restricted to buying only 50% of discs available.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi Jason

 Little bit confused by your message. Are you saying that discs with DTS-HD on them don't play any audio at all, or just that you can't play the DTS-HD soundtracks on these discs, having to stick with Dolby Digital 5.1? Saying that you will be 'restricted to buying only 50% of discs available' implies that they don't work properly at all. Unless you're not actually willing to play an HD disc unless you can listen to a high-def audio soundtrack, which seems a little harsh!

To clarify as much as I can based on what you've said, the PS3 does not decode DTS HD, and most likely never will. DTS-HD is in fact an optional format for Blu-ray players rather than a mandatory one, and the PS3 is by no means the only Blu-ray player that won't handle it.

However, it's my understanding that DTS-HD is only an optional track on any disc that carries it, rather than being the only soundtrack available. In other words, you should be able to choose a standard Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1 audio track that should play fine.

 I don't have Die Hard 4 or Shoot em up myself, but I'm going to order Die Hard 4.0 right now.

 In the meantime, could you clarify whether you're saying that you don't get any sound at all from DTS-HD discs, or whether you can at least get a standard DTS or Dolby Digital mix off them?

And if you have any other DTS-HD discs in your collection, tell me what they are and I'll check them out for myself iwith my PS3 if I have any of them.

 John Archer


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